My first masochistic feelings started when I was only 5. Didn't know what these feelings were all about, except that I had this strange fascination with my torso and everything about it. I loved looking in the mirror at my chest when my shirt was off. Didn't think much of my face, but oh how I loved looking at my bare chest. Strangely, I always thought of things that could be done to it that would hurt. Even then, I felt pangs of excitement whenever I had the thought of somebody hurting my chest, stomach or back, and I used to imagine being cut, stepped on or walked on, beaten, and other things that I don't remember. These feelings didn't become sexual until I was 7 when I first discovered masturbation (dry at that time, however). It wasn't until I started ejaculating (age 11 or 12) that I started thinking about girls. Early experiments included hitting myself, dropping heavy items on my torso, even tightening belts around my stomach and chest so tight that it would hurt me to breathe, standing over a vice and tightening the vice to squish my nipples (great fun, actually). I'd also position myself under heavy furniture so that I could lift one end of the item with my arms and then let the legs of the chair, sofa, bed, etc. come down to rest on my abdomen, and then I'd lie in that position for as long as possible and the pain was totally unbearable. Never tried to have the piano leg rest on my abs, but I sure was tempted to do it. One time I led the foot of the bed rest on my abs for about 30 minutes. The pain was killing me, but I loved it. Clothespins then and now have been great chest torture devices, with me putting more than 50 clothespins on my chest and forcing myself to endure it for a long time. Of course on my nipples I double or triple the clothespins over each other for extra pressure, and I like heavy duty nipple clamps. On rare occasions (when parents weren't looking) I'd bare my chest in the wintertime, one time rolling in the snow with my chest bared. More commonly, when nobody was looking, I'd pack snow under my heavy sweaters and jackets and shirt, so it would be against my abdomen and back. It gave me a sense of excitement. It was painfully cold, and contrary to what a normal person would want, but to me it felt good. One time I got a younger neighbor boy to repeatedly jump and stomp on my chest and stomach. I felt silly doing it, yet liked it a lot. It felt good to have someone hurt me in this way. Yet, being shy, there was way too much I didn't do, and regret that I passed up far too many opportunities to get beaten up by other kids. I always fantasized about that, and wish I'd taken up offers from a couple of guys who wanted to beat me up when I was 12 or so. Had the internet been around then (so I could find others who either had pain fantasies or who liked to inflict pain), I am sure I would have realized many of my dreams as a teenager. When I first saw a whipping scene on TV and also read accounts of Navy floggings, it all came together for me. Somehow I knew that was for me. The guy with his shirt off, arms stretched out and taking the lash was who I wanted to be from then on. Sometimes in school I had a hard time getting through my assignments as I'd want to keep re-reading the flogging accounts, and I was hard and also had pangs of excitement as I read them. A thrilling, feverish feeling came over me whenever I read about a flogging. One time a teacher asked if I was all right as he thought I was getting sick as my complexion changed and I was sweating, but I was just so struck when reading about a really bloody flogging and wishing and imagining that was me. I never did get through "Tom Sawyer" as I couldn't get past the chapter about Tom taking a whipping for Becky Thatcher. Oh how I loved that section, and I wore it out and got the pages sticky with semen. The concept of taking a whipping for someone else became a special turnon for me, and has been all my life. I always hoped I could rescue some girl from her punishment and take it on my back and chest for her. Great way to start a romance, right? Of course as I read those pages, I transformed the whipping in my mind to being on Tom's bare back, not his ass. Then I further transformed Tom into myself, and Becky into whomever I was interested in at the time, and I'd be in jeans and taking the lashes on my bare chest as well as my back. I would have given anything back then to meet someone who would whip or flog my back and chest really hard. My most frequent thoughts were about being a sailor under a very brutal skipper who treated his crew harshly. Forced heavy labor. Forced to work (and sleep without blankets) shirtless and barefoot, with only my Levis on, regardless of the weather. And I'd be the nice guy who would cover up someone else's crime, and take the punishment myself - twice, one set of lashes for the crime, and another for refusing to tell who did it. Also had fantasy about being punished with other crewmen, and I'd be last, so while I was chained up spread eagle, I'd be able to watch their bodies taking a beating, and the blood and welts and bruises, see them flinch and hear them scream, all the while anticipating my own painful punishment. Many of the statistics I read about flogging over the years have made me really excited. The idea that two dozen lashes with a cat inflicted a horrendous punishment, yet some guys were sentenced to 300, 500, 600, 800, 1000 lashes or more really got my attention (since I've been into heavy action myself, I have had the pleasure, and pain, of over 250 lashes on my back and also that many on my chest. Knowing how difficult it was to get to 250, only makes me want to try to endure 500 or more in one session). After seeing a movie (Sea Hawk, I think) about galley slaves, I knew I wanted to be one. Being forced to use every muscle to push and pull the heavy oars, while in chains, excited me. But the best ones to be were the guys closest to the whipmaster, as they got the bloodiest backs. Even though I never heard of chest whippings, I so wanted them. I always fantasized that I would take just as much whip on my chest and abs as on my back. I always wanted someone to hurt me there as well as on my sides and shoulders. I've also had many fantasies where a bunch of guys gang up on me and one holds me while others punch me hard in the stomach and pecs, and when they're finished beating me up real bad, they chain me up and whip me. One old black and white, silent movie, "The Thief of Bagdad" had a scene that really turned me on. The thief, wearing only pants, was suspended horizontally from 4 vertical poles, with chains, and a gang of at least 4 men were flogging and beating up his back, chest and sides with sticks or canes. After seeing that scene, many nights I longed to be him. Over the years I've enjoyed the fantasy of having my abdomen and chest stomped on, by sexy women in high heels or boots, as well as by big men in heavy boots and even weight lifters lifting weights while standing on me. Great fantasy but it never happened. Another is the idea of having someone use my back or chest for a dartboard. Crucifixion scenes have also turned me on and in addition to nails pounded through my wrists and feet, I imagined nails being pounded into my chest and other nails from the back of the cross being forced into my back. Of course one of the best parts of a crucifixion fantasy is the scourging or flogging that precedes it. Having my torso used as a punching bag is another favorite fantasy. Throughout my 20's, 30's and 40's, I longed with all my heart for the chance to be whipped, but I thought it would never happen. I didn't know who to ask. In my 30's I started whipping myself, with belts (and later with electrical cords I had fashioned into whips), and I eventually got quite good at it, and made the wire whips such that they'd be very mean and painful. But the satisfaction was limited. Better than nothing. Also, back in my 30's, my girlfriend and I were very passionate lovers and when she came to orgasm, she got so excited that she'd dig her fingernails into my back. At first it bothered me, but soon I came to love it. Later when she realized she was doing it, she apologized, almost in shock that she had done that, and I assured her that I liked it. A few times I even prodded her to dig deeper. Often her nails in my back made me cum. That's as far as I've ever gone to reveal my masochistic side to her. She's extremely averse to any kind of pain or punishment being inflicted on anybody, especially me. So I feel the need to shield her from a side of me that I believe would upset her. She is my life and my soul mate after all. Most of the magazines I saw depicting whipping seemed to show women being whipped either by men or other women. Maybe I'm sexist, or maybe it's just my fetish, but I'd rather see men taking whippings for women. Even better if I take their whippings! While I admire women who take it like a man, I tend to feel men should be whipped, not women. Now, two women whipping me? Wow, I'd love it. I passed my 50th birthday thinking that a real whipping was something I could have only in fantasy. The internet changed all that, and now I'm making up for lost time and loving every bit of it. I've been extremely fortunate with the people who have whipped me, but I am also careful whom I trust. So far I've only had one experience that I didn't care for. That was a few years ago, and it was because the whipping didn't hurt that much or go on for very long. My tolerance of pain seems to be quite high, and I like nothing better than having my limits pushed hard. I'd rather be whipped too hard and too long than too little. I absolutely love severe floggings. Especially ones that go on for 100's of lashes. While I am on the receiving end, I have mixed feelings, but know that it is my destiny to take harder and harder lashings. Of all the different whips, I think I like cat o'nine tails the best. Single tails and floggers are fine, but there is something so cruel, terrifying and devastating about cats that makes me love them. And I keep looking for the perfect cat, and I already have a pretty mean one. I still whip myself when I have to go a while between floggings, but I really do like it best when someone works me over well. When self-whipping. I cannot get the leverage to hit myself as hard as I'd like. I am happy to be flogged by male or female, as long as they do it with a very heavy hand. My favorite scenes include wraps--lashes that wrap around my sides or shoulders and really dig in and give me good bruises. Yes, I prefer to be bruised, marked up well and bloodied. I am grateful for these groups on Yahoo as they have opened up a whole world for me -- one that I could easily have missed. Also, I am grateful that I live in the San Francisco area where I have a number of people I can go to for the kind of flogging I like. Photos of some of my flogging sessions are in the photo album "jsnaw" of the Yahoo group mcpf. A direct link to them is: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/mcpf/lst?.dir=/jnsaw/ Many more photos are in my profile photo album at: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jeans_noshirt_and_whipped/my_photos Narratives of other sessions and other thoughts I have about flogging and whipping can be found in the files directory at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mcpf/files/jnsaw/ Sincerely, jeans_noshirt_and_whipped